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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Cops are quitting because they don't want to deal with that shit.

  Could not have said it better myself. I hope we don't get to a point where the question becomes "Who you gonna call"?

  WHO ARE THE CRIMINALS WHO WERE DOING WRONG?

  Nobody wants to talk about this, which is part of what makes policing very difficult in today's environment.

  Don't want to be treated badly by the police?
  STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE !

  That's the best piece of advice for avoiding treatment you'd rather not be exposed to. The non-criminal law-abiding citizen has to remember that our law enforcement personnel are human beings who spend each shift on 100 percent alert for their personal safety (and everyone else's too!). Every day they are faced with criminals that would just as soon spit on them, and many do just that.

  Here's another piece of advice for law-abiding citizens: Want to be treated friendly by a police officer? Then reach out to them and make friends. Otherwise it's strictly business, and you'll be subject to being treated like a live machine that needs to be locked-out before a perceived fault is remedied.
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  Schoolyard bully mentality

  by FusionTheism in

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  i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

  i think anonymity is a big part of it.

  they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

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  Marvin Shilmer

  ... why do atheists (9% of the population, maybe) think they have a monopoly on truth, or that they are so superior to the other 91% of people?

  That's properly termed a converse accident. As there are some theists who think they are superior to atheists there are also some atheists who think themselves superior to theists. So what? Each is silly nonsensical thinking.

  I'll just say again, that almost all the major positive world-changing events in history have been done by theists.

  That's a perfect example of an unproven assertion. And, this is how you think?
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Someone CAUSED this and let's not forget - it wasn't the police.
  Every time such behavior is excused it is encouraged.

  And she's being treated like a queen in the media. Imagine that.

  Be critical of the police, sure, but who are you going to call when the unruly and disrespectful mob come to invade your space and take your things? Ghostbusters?

  We should be critical of community policing. I hear "professional" and "professionalism" used a lot in this discussion. Law enforcement members receive training for situations they are expected to encounter, and we rightly hold armed police agents to a higher standard of behavior. The thing is that law enforcement can train for and plan for agitated crowds but agitated crowds never go according to plan. Law enforcement officers are trained in techniques and policies, but they are also instructed to seek the best end result, which is public safety. We can kick the one policeman down the street all we want, but it remains the case that in this instance public safety was maintained and no one was seriously injured. We have a good result of the policing that was performed. The result of this incident is that we have no parent and family grieving death of a beloved, something to be thankful for.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  violias, thanks for sharing that well written article.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  You specifically said,"I'll wait to hear a more comprehensive report based on multiple perspectives to the whole incident."
  Now you have that.

  No. We don't have a more comprehensive report. Read your own sources. The thing remains under investigation. We'll see what comes to light.

  Your perspective will not change.

  That's silly. My perspectives have been known to change based on evidence. Otherwise why would I post here and talk about Watchtower's silly, damning and downright dangerous doctrines and policies like I do?
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  You sound kinda sour.

  No sourness here. I have no dog in this issue except my own observations, which have not changed. I'm glad no one was injured in the incident. The officer in this instance was going to have to resign. City officials say what they need to say to keep the greater peace, which is what the said officer did outside the pool area, and he kept the peace too.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Seems like the police chief who is an actual officer agrees with me...

  I'm glad for you. Hope it makes you feel better.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The officer has since quit.

  No surprise there.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Yes. So what? Do you like the outcome of the officer acting unprofessional and damaging the relationship for all officers in the town?

  That's an assertion; not a fact.

  We must take care not to transpose social ills onto an incident that is not contributing to those ills. Someone called for police because public safety was perceived to be in jeopardy. The police are to protect public safety. Guess what? This incident ended safely for everyone, including officers who wanted to finish their shift and be alive to hug their spouses and children when they got home. Oh, guess what else? We don't have any parents sobbing because their child lost their life.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  At one point one of the kids addressed him in such a mannerable fashion and he just continues to yell.

  Yes. So what? Do you like the outcome of no one being seriously injured?

  There is more to this episode than we see on video. This officer was working to preserve order and safety. He knew there were other officers there, and they were working differently, which is typical. The particular office at issue was primarily focused on crowd control and not playing nicy-nicy. He was barking authoritatively for a reason, and his work was in concert with other officers around him.